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[Cookie]

If you will choose Linux mint or ubuntu you will have a good installer wich leads you through most difficulties.
It will detect your W7 and offers the option to install linux besides it.

For me the best guide is the easy Linux tips project wich leads you step by step after the install to an optimized OS.

The decision wich kernel version to take depends on your GPU,
as "gaming" definitely needs proprietary drivers and NVidia has them for the last kernel but AMD not...

[zalo]

Hi,

i use here playonlinux for wine management, it s very easy and confortable
it can manage to choose the wine version to use, virtual drive, etc
i think it s a good hint
for distribution, for beginner ubuntu (but it use the unity now, it can be switched for gnome 2) or mint 18 with mate

i reedit the post
gnome et mate cause some display graphical problem here
i change for xfce with xubuntu it work better now

Edited by zalo, Nov 25 2016 - 03:17 PM.

[John Woods]

Thanks zalo.

Here's a link: PlayOnLinux

Got the computer running with Win7.

Here's the current draft of install schedule:

1. ubuntu.
    (Seems that is recommended for beginners)?
a. Nvidia
b. Logitech
c. projector/monitor
3. Wine
4. PlayOnLinux
5. GPL Installer/GEM+/Grand Prix Legends
6. Configure DFGT wheel and pedals

If dual boot users go on-line using Linux on a Win7 partition, do they have to worry about security on the "base" Windows install?
Aren't there still vulnerabilities?

Thinking about doing a Linux partition install on this not-used-for-Grand Prix Legends laptop so I can get some scope.
It is used on-line and for e-mail.

[mcmirande]

Concerning linux distros, I use Manjaro (after trying several ones) and I'm very happy. It's based on Archlinux, but it's much easy to install and manage (at the level of Ubuntu or Mint)

Cheers, Marcos.

[john roberts]

John Woods, on Nov 22 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

If dual boot users go on-line using Linux on a Win7 partition, do they have to worry about security on the "base" Windows install?
Aren't there still vulnerabilities?

what do you mean ? you sound confused . linux isn't installed on a win7 partition .

john

[john roberts]

myself when running gpl under wine i have always found winetricks less tricky to use than playonlinux , but then plain vanilla wine can be great if you don't have any problems .

john

Edited by john roberts, Nov 22 2016 - 09:28 PM.

[mcmirande]

Is somebody else racing GPL with a H-shifter? Until now I can't configure the shifter of my G27...

Marcos

[John Woods]

john roberts, on Nov 22 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

you sound confused .
john

It's the one thing I am certain of.

Too much to learn all at once.

Maybe this is why?
Linux distros 2016 chart:
https://futurist.se/g...10/gldt1210.png

Shows what happens when someone shares a good idea.

Back to first impulse and making a Linux-only install, (no Win), on dedicated GPL rig, so that confusion is...click...resolved by elimination.

Found this: Best of 2016

Which includes this:

Quote

Best Distro for Desktops: Linux Mint Cinnamon
Linux Mint Cinnamon is the best operating system for desktops and powerful laptops. I will go as far as calling it the Mac OS X of the Linux world. Honestly, I had not been a huge fan of Linux Mint for a long time because of unstable Cinnamon. But, as soon as the developers chose to use LTS as the base, the distro has become incredibly stable. Because the developers don’t have to spend much time worrying about keeping up with Ubuntu, they are now investing all of their time in making Cinnamon better.

Best Distro for Games: Steam OS
Gaming has been a weakness of desktop Linux. Many users dual-boot with Windows just to be able to play games. Valve Software is trying to change that. Valve is a game distributor that offers a client to run games on different platforms. And, Valve has now created their open operating system -- Steam OS -- to create a Linux-based gaming platform. By the end of 2015, partners started shipping Steam machines to the market.

What about Steam OS? Noticed some comments are not all that favorable, not really unfavorable either, but anyone know if it might have some capability advantage given use for Grand Prix Legends only. As I understand it is designed to better handle graphics and not load up CPU?

Otherwise, seems latest Mint is way to go for newbie?
What about using Xfce...Linux lite?

Probably maybe about to perhaps download something soon and figure out how to use ImgBurn.

Thanks Cookie, for links that have helped a bunch, and everyone for comments etc.

Edited by John Woods, Nov 25 2016 - 12:47 PM.

[Cookie]

Afaik SteamOS is a commercial OS to support their way of making money...

If your PC's specs are not too low, I'd recomment to use mint cinamon.

[john roberts]

don’t forget you can download a few distros and try them in a live session by that by burning them or installing them on a virtual system .

If you are only going to use this pc for gpl you might also want to look into using a LTS version (long term system) which will have a longer support time before you have to update to the next version . Most none LTS system will need updating every one or two years (there are some rolling releases too… ) , where a LTS system would typically 5 years or longer if an enterprise version .

I would recommend using a Debian based system like ubuntu or mint but not Debian itself , that way anything you learn on one system you will be able to transfer to another , this is not to say there are not other great systems ( I can hear all the fedora users sharpening pitchforks and lighting torches ) . but you want to use a system that most new users start with and which there is the most help for you online .

The next thing is which desktop do you want to run and that is really up to your taste , I guess your pc will be fine with all the managers out there . So why not try a few …

gnome
unity
cinnamon
KDE
Xfce

you can have more than one desktop manager on your linux PC but that I guess might be beyond you at the moment .

[John Woods]

Yes so far just having Linux on a machine seems beyond me...
So, for now Cinnamon.

Steam is for sure over my head and it seems inappropriate anyway.

[mcmirande]

Hi guys, I reinstalled my Manjaro OS in a computer with dual boot (I have GPL installed on Windows partition).

Is there some way to install GEM on Linux but use the GPL from Windows (i.e. without having to copy all GPL folder from windows to Linux)?  I'm editing things in the mods and wouldn't like to have different versions of GPL in windows and linux partitions...

I installed GEM on Linux and when execute it, it ask me the language and after that it hangs

Thanks, Marcos.

[JMF]

mcmirande, on Dec 22 2019 - 10:32 AM, said:

I installed GEM on Linux and when execute it, it ask me the language and after that it hangs

I think this file on my computer needed to be deleted to use Gem, /home/greg/.wine/drive_c/users/Public/Documents/GEM+/GEM.ini

[mcmirande]

Thanks Greg!

[Cookie]

We need a "how to" GPL with Linux again for the end of W7!

To first delete the GEM.ini is a standart step there

Marcos do you still use the intel iGPU?

[mcmirande]

Yes Axel! But don't use regularly linux to race because never could get my H-shifter to work properly on it.

Now I'm editing skins for the 68mod to add online numbers and I just wanted to test the progress without necessity to reboot on Windows all the time.

I reinstalled Manjaro from Zero and had to install gpl again. I noted that gpl works much better in this fresh install, btw.

Cheers, Marcos

Edited by mcmirande, Dec 24 2019 - 06:54 AM.

[Frank_Mueller]

I have an older system with an AMD 6-core CPU (8GB) in combination with an AMD R7 250 graphic card (2GB). A Logitech driving force pro and a self maid shifter based on an game pad.
Is GPL/GEM/IGOR with FFB running with this combination? I'm running Linux Mint, with the plan to change to Manjaro if an upgrade is necessary.
May be?

[mcmirande]

Frank, I think it could work everything (and better than on my integrated Intel "gpu") excepting the shifter... That's the main problem I have now to put GPL to work.
But let us know if you find a solution to the shifter!

Concerning the distros, Mint should work at least as Manjaro. I wouldn't change the distro if you're already accostumed to Mint.

Cheers, Marcos

[TomJ]

I still use Linux Mint 19.1 Cinnamon, Version 4.0.10, Kernel 4.15.0-72 on the following system;

Intel Dual Core E8400 3GHz with 8GB Ram and Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 4GB

I didn't have to delete the GEM.ini after running the GEM install file from the wine drive c.

I'll install the latest version of Linux Mint on another drive and make notes of all steps taken to get GPL and GEM working.

Installed GPL and GEM on a fresh Linux install and I had to delete GEM.ini as Greg posted and let GEM create it again.

Edited by TomJ, Dec 24 2019 - 11:36 PM.

[Cookie]

Sorry to say Frank,
but it is not a good idea to run GPL with an AMD GPU,
the openGL version of the AMD linux driver can't render the GPL fonts in menues... but it is perfect in car and has good fps...
If you try Direct 3DV2 you have good menues but no fps...

I tried all versions of mint, manjaro and sparkylinux without success, IMO we must find a way to get the GPL fonts accepted by the system, but they are in a strange format...

With NVidia GPU using the proprietary drivers even my laptop runs GPL perfect 60fps

PS

Asseto Corsa runs fine with AMDGPU in linux, it's just GPL!

Edited by Cookie, Dec 24 2019 - 09:08 AM.