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[Bernd Nowak]

npattinson, on Apr 5 2009, 12:14 PM, said:

Bernd Nowak, on Apr 5 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

Now, I need to find out why my brake marker is a barrier as soon as I assign a collision value in 123do to it

I'm not the right person to answer this, but isn't that what you wanted ? I would imagine 3dos are non-solid (the tactile equivalent of transparent - is there a word for that ?) by default, whereas if you set a collision value they become something you can run into.

Nigel

Hehe, but the object should not stretch to an unvisible barrier across the whole track section    like a energy proection shield in a science fiction movie  

And I'm working a bit on the GRV at the moment. When I use the export from GPLRA it's basically the same phenomen I recall from my regrooving attempts of the ring. It's more or less a constant line. I'm working on this.

[Bernd Nowak]

I have seemed to solve my groove problem by adding a groove.mip as well as adding this entry to mytrack.tex file:

4003 0 0 10.0 10.0 groove

Next thing will be to add some height infos and to resolve the gaps which will for sure arise

Will start working a bit on the AI but overall I have a good feeling about the guide. Remember this will be a beginners guide for newbies like me I have seen some nice advanced stuff.

At least till now everything is done via freeware tools which is good.

About the collison box thing. It's attached to a polygon which itself is attached to vertics. Would it be safe to assume that I need the vertics like nails which are needed to 'hold' the polygons ?

Another thing I will try is to create a 3D object in Blender, export it to ASE or 3DS and import it. What is the best choice: ASE or 3DS ?

Still interesting to get this thing going. When I'm done with most steps I will save it and begin with a fresh new one and try to be more straight forward

[MECH]

Bernd Nowak, on Apr 5 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

Another thing I will try is to create a 3D object in Blender, export it to ASE or 3DS and import it. What is the best choice: ASE or 3DS ?

I use ase files for converting it to 3do with the program ase23do.
After the conversion you need to clean it up with 3doclean.
from the readme:
This utility will strip unused data from the following sections of a 3do file.

- SXYZ which contains the verticy data
- PLAN which contains the plane data
- NORM which contains the normals data
- STRN which contains the strings data


If you have cleaned it up you can use 3doconvert to add normals and specular lighting with shine.
3doconvert can also add display classes but i think these are only used by car 3do's  

How the process works for use with 123do i don't know coss i can't get it working on my system.
I believe 123do also has some import function

[Bernd Nowak]

Border Reiver, on Apr 5 2009, 11:48 PM, said:

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I know Phil also made tools for adding collision to objects, but I have to confess that all of the "hard core" programs like GPL Editor etc. scare the heck out of me once they start talking about nodes, flavours and so forth.

Rob

Same here

I will give it a try and report back.

[Bernd Nowak]

Did some more checking.
Attached is a zip file containing 2 3DO cubes.

cubecb.3do just the cube without collision box.

cubecben.3do same cube with collision box.

But I can drive through the cubecben.3do  

Somehow it's a mysterium. I read all pages here: https://www.vanwall.e....uk/gplediting/ but no word how collision box works.

I have attached the 123do project files too.

Attached Files

•  3docollisionbox.zip   4.07K   13 downloads

[ginetto]

In 123do > Set Collision Volumes window, you need to select the 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 polygons at the same time then click add; after that you choose the kind of collision type

[ginetto]

Yes Rob, I was trying to explain how to make it work, my error at the beginning was because I added a polygon and assign the collision type , then add the second polygon and assign the collision... and so on, this was always a failure and I got mad thinking about how this could work until Phil Neville told me to select all the polygons together and add them all in the same line

But after seeing the  examples Bernd posted is not his case;
Bernd, your error is that you didn't draw the polygon correctly, some of them face inside the cube and some outside.
You need to draw them so that they all face outside otherwise the collision is not included in the box but spread around the universe

Edited by Ginetto, Apr 06 2009 - 06:02 AM.

[Bernd Nowak]

Adding a collison box to each polygon adds a nice effect

But according to 123do cubecben should have all enabled. I made a cube first you to try. As it's a standalone file do I need to rerun trk23doz after making changes ? I can't believe because I would think that trk23doz makes only a reference what external 3DOs are listed in the TSO (with long/lat).

Ah, I saw your response Ginetto ! I will check it

Edited by Bernd Nowak, Apr 06 2009 - 06:03 AM.

[ginetto]

No, you don't need to rerun trk23doZ you just need to give the same name to wichever 3do and they will appear at the point of origin you assigned in the TSO

EDIT: this cube with collision has the 3 wrong faced polys fixed, it should now work... ( I hope... )

Attached Files

•  cubecben.zip   960bytes   9 downloads

Edited by Ginetto, Apr 06 2009 - 06:12 AM.