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[DuncanS]

Hi GPLers,

In these challenging times, I hope you, your families and your communities are staying well and looking out for each other as best as you can.

For those of a different Era, in Star Wars and GPL terms, from a Galaxy far away and a long, long, time ago, there was a thread called 'A Small Addon For Monza'. The last post there was maybe in late 2003 before the RSC forums sadly disappeared. It was perhaps one of only four or five threads which reached more than 100 pages long due to so many contributions. It was an exciting time. Monza then, was the 'Papy' Monza, so it was 'owned' by the whole community already, and the whole community could then help to try to make it better. From discovering new details, to creating new content. It was an 'open project' where some very skilled 3do artists, like JochenCT HYPA and Steffen W learnt to develop their existing skills towards GPL and some members like myself, who had no skill at all, just a passion for GPL, to be encouraged to try to make their first basic textures and 3do edits. What Jochen and Steffen created in those days were for us, I think I may say on behalf of the community then, were huge leaps in detail and artistry for a GPL track, so much so that we could not contain our excitement to experience it ourselves from their preview pics. A lot like Bruce's new Honda for those that recall and were around back then.

Anyway as a bit of fun, here is a small addon for Monza(67). I spoke with a member of the team already who said to post here, so I trust it is ok by everyone, thank you.

4 Tigers, all slightly different, can you spot it? There is something else missing also, who knows what it is? :-)

Best wishes, Duncan

Attached Files

•  A small addon for Monza67.jpg   141.64K   162 downloads
•  A small addon for monza67 - TIGERS.7z   1MB   65 downloads

[Stefan Roess]

Thank you.

It this small addon for the recently new released monza67 (track folder name) or the original Papyrus monza (track folder name)?

Edited by Stefan Roess, Jul 24 2020 - 02:49 PM.

[DuncanS]

And here is some Nostalgia of the past R&D for Monza in the RSC days, for those who might enjoy it. Of course back then still many details were unknown and some mistaken. Sadly I cannot find any of Steffen's preview pics, but I did find some from Jochen :-)

Stefan Roess, on Jul 24 2020 - 02:47 PM, said:

Thank you.

It this small addon for the recently new released monza67 (track folder name) or the original Papyrus monza (track folder name)?

It is for the newly released Monza67 Stefan. The billboards are of the accurate ones from 1967.

Place in your monza67 folder. If you might not like them, simply delete. For anyone who would like to, these can also be made into mips for the Papy Monza, please feel free.

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•  1967_billboard at outside of exit para & old banking_unkExitPara2.jpg   140.02K   81 downloads
•  1967_Exit para_shell old banking_details.jpg   47.1K   87 downloads
•  1967_monza overhead pic & GPL track 3do superimposed comparison screens.jpg   146.34K   81 downloads
•  1967_monza_to do list montage_keeper.jpg   44.43K   72 downloads
•  1967_Monza_Inside parabolica - banners - panorama view_lower res.jpg   23.67K   66 downloads
•  Monza Notes 1_Curve Grande armco.jpg   64.36K   65 downloads
•  Monza Notes 2_Della Roggia & Lesmo 1.jpg   142.72K   70 downloads
•  Monza Notes 3_Lesmo 1 & Shell BB.jpg   82.43K   61 downloads
•  Monza Notes 5_Ascari & Rettifilio Centrale.jpg   138.17K   69 downloads
•  Monza Notes 7_2 Motta_Super Shell Billboards etc - Parabolica_comparison.jpg   148.47K   71 downloads
•  Monza Notes 7_1 Exit Parabolica_Billboards.jpg   139.71K   67 downloads
•  Monza Notes 7_3 Motta_Super Shell BB placement etc - parabolica.jpg   76.64K   76 downloads
•  Monza Notes 9_Billboards on inside of track b4 the pits.jpg   140.82K   74 downloads
•  Monza Notes 10_armco layout etc_B4 pits_Inside of S_F straight.jpg   89.37K   63 downloads
•  Monza Notes 12_Large Fina Flag.jpg   54.51K   55 downloads
•  Monza Notes 13_1 S_F straight_starter plus others.jpg   76.77K   53 downloads
•  Monza Notes 14_After Pits_Inside of S_F straight.jpg   167.43K   57 downloads
•  Monza Notes 15_FINAL_Start Finish straight 3do Overview.jpg   117.07K   55 downloads
•  Monza Notes 16_Small Grandstands Height.jpg   135.29K   50 downloads
•  Monza Notes 18_Gstands5+6.jpg   115.26K   43 downloads
•  Monza Notes 19_Gstands7+8.jpg   135.32K   41 downloads
•  Monza Notes 20_kiosks.jpg   41.95K   48 downloads
•  Monza Notes 21_Gstands 9+10+T2+Old Bank Entrance Armco.jpg   112.36K   57 downloads
•  New monza edits - moly & para.jpg   136.1K   58 downloads
•  1967_Monza_JCT_PreFinalAmbulanceView.jpg   31.1K   62 downloads
•  1967_Monza_JCT_PreFinalParacrowds.jpg   95.45K   59 downloads
•  1967_Monza_JCT_PreFinalPepsiView.jpg   47.58K   49 downloads

Edited by DuncanS, Jul 24 2020 - 04:59 PM.

[Arno]

[Stefan Roess]

DuncanS, on Jul 24 2020 - 02:51 PM, said:

It is for the newly released Monza67 Stefan. The billboards are of the accurate ones from 1967.

Thank you!

[Saiph]

DuncanS, on Jul 24 2020 - 02:35 PM, said:

..........
4 Tigers, all slightly different, can you spot it? There is something else missing also, who knows what it is? :-)
..........

A packet of Kelloggs Cornflakes?

[DuncanS]

Sugar coated Saiph



Here is a colour corrected 'F' & 'I' AT trackside banner. Two mip versions, shady and bright (original was bright, simply remove '_bright' from mip name to use, or use the shaded one included already named correctly as 'fiat.mip'. Surprisingly, particularly if you use the bright version, these small changes make quite a difference to the visual experience.

For your monza67 folder, again if you don't like it simply delete the mip.

Much more possible if people are interested.

Attached Files

•  monza67_fiat.jpg   92.98K   90 downloads
•  monza67_FIAT_colour corrected.7z   231.75K   53 downloads

[marco lenarduzzi]

Thank you

[ginetto]

Thank you Duncan.

[HeinzF]

Thank you very much! Really nice addons!

[Arno]

[DuncanS]

Thanks for your feedback and appreciation Heinz, Arno, Marco, Ginetto, Stefan.

Here is an addon for the large Rettifilo Tribune shell billboard.

From the colour photos I have it is clear there was no shimmer on the billboard, it was a strong colour to be able to see. However the small Coca-Cola directly after was affected strongly by the sunlight, so I tried to make the update match within the monza67 track. It wasn't so easy but I am happier with it now and it seems to fit with the environment. The Coca-Cola billboard was alongside the 300m brake marker but I imagine there was maybe clipping issues.

Place the shell mip in your monza67 track folder, again if you don't like simply delete.

Attached Files

•  monza67_RT Shell Cheq Large.7z   45.26K   40 downloads
•  1967_monza_shell main cheq.jpg   72.14K   47 downloads

[DuncanS]

I noticed when looking at the shell billboard, another mip was needed for the FIAT banner I updated IF YOU ARE USING THE SHADED version!

Here is the extra FIAT mip if you enjoy to use the colour corrected shaded version. If you are using the colour corrected 'bright' version then you should not use this mip. In RL(real life) the FIAT banners were shaded from the sun.

Here is the extra shaded mip.

Attached Files

•  monza67_FIAT_colour corrected_new brofiat mip for when using shaded FIAT mip option.7z   9.75K   34 downloads

[DuncanS]

Again the Shell mip update makes quite a difference to the driving experience in monza67, but it is much closer to the real experience if you do like it.


Ok, so another quiz. I didn't check my Monza stuff for a long time. With another look today I noticed there was more than 1 version of the FIAT trackside banner although all with the same design principle. So again maybe a little bit of fun for those who enjoy it. Is it possible to discover what they all were for 1967?

So far I can see all the banners had the same large single font F(yellow) I(green) A(blue) T(red).

There were at least 4 versions running down the retiffilo tribune (although we will not see them so much at 170+mph/250+kph) and maybe totallying 4 as well, of 4 different FIAT models perhaps each in the 4 main F I A T colours.

The first three models listed are known to be accurate and been there, the 4th I can't confirm it may be actually be the (slogan)
FIAT DINO Coupe (yellow?)
FIAT 850 ...? (green)
FIAT 124 Sport Coupe (blue)
4th model for 1967? FIAT ?124 Familiare? (red)
Was there a fifth banner, maybe with a slogan, saying something like .... 'STYLE, .... .....'? Perhaps this is the 4th banner in '67 and in Red. In 68 it appears to have been in yellow.

EDITED, see this post for updated info https://srmz.racesimcentral.net/inde...=20#entry150115

Edited by DuncanS, Jul 27 2020 - 05:23 PM.

[DuncanS]

If you are interested in the real history, here is the original 1967 Honda Manifest, for the entry submission for Honda F1 Racing with John Surteees driving.

Attached Files

•  1967_monza_original entry list_surtees honda ra300.jpg   75.19K   51 downloads

[Arno]

Thank you DuncanS   Nice addons for an historical experience !

[PHI52]

Thank you Guys

[Robert Fleurke]

Thanks for the updates, Duncan!  

[Claudio Pablo Navonne]

Thanks Duncan!!

[MalBound]

I wish for new multi season add-ons for Monza67. In 1968, the start-finish road was repaved. In 1969, the color of the Gulf banners had changed from blue to orange.