17 replies to this topic

[dario]

I tested 55 mod for a few days. And noticed that braking is rather unusuall. At high speeds brakes are fine, but at low speeds it just wont stop. Are there any usefull tips how to brake at low speeds. Thank you

[D_J]

The 55 mod has brake fading. There is a little lamp on your dashboard that shows a red , yellow or green light to indicate what state your brakes are in. Red = no brakes , yellow = some brakes and green is full brakes.

[dario]

OMG Thats great! Thank you!!!

I always thought this lamp was to indicate something with engine.

Thank you. My experience with 1955 mod is getting better and better

[Michkov]

I found it best to treat the brakes as you would tyres. They start cold and get hot then enter a steady state. Drive to the steady state instead of slavishly trying to keep the brakes cool. Not sure if that's the fastest way round but it keeps the break points constants once the brakes are up to temperature.

[gliebzeit]

Michikov, that is the best description that I've heard of for using the '55 car brakes in the best possible manner.

Thanks!

[Stefan Roess]

Also try to use the "engine brake" by shifting down a little bit earlier.
And when you are running out of brakes entering a very tight corner or a hairpin, shift down to 1st gear even when it is a 2nd gear corner.
Sometimes it helps that you can stay on the track.

[Paddy the Irishman]

 Michkov, on Aug 07 2019 - 04:13 PM, said:

I found it best to treat the brakes as you would tyres. They start cold and get hot then enter a steady state. Drive to the steady state instead of slavishly trying to keep the brakes cool. Not sure if that's the fastest way round but it keeps the break points constants once the brakes are up to temperature.

Very interesting - what colour is your brake indicator light then ?

[dario]

 Stefan Roess, on Aug 08 2019 - 01:16 AM, said:

Also try to use the "engine brake" by shifting down a little bit earlier.
And when you are running out of brakes entering a very tight corner or a hairpin, shift down to 1st gear even when it is a 2nd gear corner.
Sometimes it helps that you can stay on the track.

360 spin on the approach to the hairpin at Rouen also does the job if executed properly. LOL

I just had fun the other day and managed to execute it few times.

Queston. What happens if someone does it in online race? Are there rules against it.

[Stefan Roess]

 dario, on Aug 08 2019 - 03:46 AM, said:

Queston. What happens if someone does it in online race? Are there rules against it.

360

Rules depend on the league you race with.
At GPLRACER we do not have such a rule.

[Saiph]

Ah, the '55 mod is so addictive that once you start driving it, you can't stop! Literally!

[Michkov]

 Paddy the Irishman, on Aug 08 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

Very interesting - what colour is your brake indicator light then ?

Depends on the track obviously, from the last race at Zandvoort I recall it being Green into Tarzan, Red until Scheivlack entry with a short pop down to yellow just before the crest and then red again for the rest of the lap. The little drags on the brakes in the twists round the back dont really help.

It requires some forsight in traffic and maybe not taking an overtake you'd attempt in the 67s but you make it work and if you are stuck behind another car the brakes tend to get cooler anyway.

[gliebzeit]

Keith !!!  You caused a coffee spurt this morning with your 55Mod humor.  Really good one!

[paul_v]

 Saiph, on Aug 08 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

Ah, the '55 mod is so addictive that once you start driving it, you can't stop! Literally!

Saith...

I had a nice little chuckle to that one.. hehe!.

Paul

[Saiph]

  I'm happy to raise a smile in a world where smiles are sometimes hard to find.

Edited by Saiph, Aug 09 2019 - 11:07 AM.

[Treetop64]

Stefan Roess, on Aug 08 2019 - 01:16 AM, said:

Also try to use the "engine brake" by shifting down a little bit earlier.
And when you are running out of brakes entering a very tight corner or a hairpin, shift down to 1st gear even when it is a 2nd gear corner.
Sometimes it helps that you can stay on the track.

Yep.  '55 Mod really emphasizes the importance of engine braking.
I engine brake far more aggressively in the '55 mod than I do in any other mod.  Much more so.  You have to, or else you're just not gong to make it.

[Pete Gaimari]

The problem I have with brake fade is the AI don't seem to get it. That's not fair for offline racers.

[Lee200]

Pete, the AI don't have brake fade in the physics, but their braking coefficient in the gpla55.ini was lowered to decrease their braking effectiveness.  If they are still braking too hard for you, then try lowering the setting more.  Just be advised that if you lower it too much, they may not be able to slow enough for the corners.

[Pete Gaimari]

That's not right either Lee. They should have full braking when the brakes are cool but lose it when getting hot. I know that can't be done or you would have done it. I've never been one to slow down the AI in any way. However, the brake fade problem keeps me away from driving the 55 cars which is a shame because they're fun to drive. I just want an equal field.

It seems I always end up driving just the Papy 67 F1 cars. I guess i'm just a grumpy old man set in his ways.